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  • Pete Zaitcev

    In the real world, U.S. fought Ottoman provinces in Barbary war from 1801 onward — only 25 years after 1776. Thomas Jefferson, one of the Founding Fathers, argued in front of Congress to start the war. But hey, it’s all in a good meme.

    • Enkidu

      That was just because the Barbary corsairs were attacking americans at sea.

    • That was not only in retaliation against privateering and in the interests of self-defense, and not within the term of George Washington or his highly neutral, anti-war successor John Adams, but it was not the only war in which the United States could have intervened.

      In particular, the Ottoman Empire was at war with Russia, Austria, and Tripolitania (Libya). In particular, this meme is relevant to the war with Tripolitania, in which the United States could have intervened, not only due to its already-established alliance with the Kingdom of Morocco but due to the local naval issues, but instead opted for continued diplomatic neutrality while advancing American mercantile interests.

      It’s not just that, either. There’s a direct and distinct difference between George Washington and Thomas Jefferson in this regard: The very man who led the revolt in Tripolitania during the term of George Washington was later supported by Thomas Jefferson in an attempt to take over the Eyalet during the First Barbary War. In other words, you are an idiot who doesn’t know much beyond what you can see on a little timeline of American history with wars and Presidents next to dates.

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