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Two sides of the same coin. Except one side stared too long into the abyss.

two sides of the same shekel.

I still cringe when I think of all the times r/The_Donald is against LGBT, feminism, blacks, latinos, etc but as soon as someone makes a post saying “I’m trans and I support trump” everyone upvotes it and goes “YAAAS YOU’RE SO BEAUTIFUL AND BRAVE”.

Why do they want the support of degenerte backstabbers? Most of those do it because “mmm what would make me more original? be a sjw trans? or an alt right nazi trans! omg yas i’ll be as unique as harley quinn!!”

Obergefell said himself (after the judges had safely handed him his case and he didn’t have to lie anymore), that he had never actually felt discriminated against the entire time, putting the lie to the whole thing. And then he even bragged that the case was a cakewalk from the very start because in Cincinnati, the lawyers who were supposed to be on the other side not only were working for him, but actually told the judge that they were on his side and they were basically opposed to him only out of formality. Apparently they said “last one out of the office” that day would get stuck with defending the case.

Results like this were rigged up from the start, Democrats pushed it, Republicans did nothing. Even if it was a 9-0 Republican dominated court, they would’ve suddenly found 5 “swing votes” to decide however the ruling class wanted. Our courts are a fraud and it’s all a sham.

Do the cucks even oppose gay marriage anymore? It seems like only a few years ago they were horrified at that supreme court ruling and now it’s like completely forgotten about.

Nope. Republicans really are Democrats from 10 years ago. Even pundits like Hannity are fully supportive of homo rights. Even outrage over tranny story hour is now stale in Republican circles.

Children can’t become gay, because they don’t have a sexuality

Teens can be confused, but it reverts, and its generally branded as normal as teens think they are everything for some reason. It either ends or they are normal gays

Being a furry has nothing to do with zoophilia and the action of animal abuse of all types is generally looked down apon

Honestly it is kind of cringe that you are using George Lincoln Rockwell, a Socialist, in order to confirm your views.

There were gays before in the movement, but they were not promoting being gay. The right with their pro-immigration, pro-minority, pro-lgbt, they’re just becoming the left 2.
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Or maybe the right simply has the common sense to know homosexuality is ok

Paul: “If you want whites to increase have children”.
Also Paul: “Or maybe the right simply has the common sense to know homosexuality is ok”.
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Homosexuals make up 1% of the population, at that point infertal men are a bigger problem

You can’t force people to have children

What an amazing argument, totally not like im 15 and have done more with my life than most adults

totally not like I actually have a successful, moderate life. The only difference between me, and most moderate people is the fact I love men

It’s so funny that you are actually not being facetious when you say “love is love”. Anyhow, it’s still disgusting and shameful. I just feel this way about queers. You could say I was born this way. I wasn’t always this intolerant though, but Christ, I can’t stand gay people any more. They are a big factor in why everything is so fucked up lately with regard to free speech and acceptable behavior. You’re all assholes and after the Jihad gets a foothold I will gladly assist the Muslims you’ve let into the country in eliminating the gay community.

No one is talking about forcing anybody to do anything like having children.
And I’m not really talking about making being gay illegal. I don’t care if you’re gay.
But it shouldn’t be promoted, specially NOT to kids.
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This is where paleo-conservatism comes into play. If conservatives just like the left are now pro-minority, pro-lgbt, etc. Then who is going to be pro-Christianity, pro-white people, pro-family, pro-traditions?

I agree with that, children under the age of puberty don’t know gender identity or sexuality. I found out when I was in puberty, but young children don’t have that

Because they are children, not teens, they don’t have sexuality or a gender

As for “pro-Christianity, pro-white people, pro-family, pro-traditions”, would goto the christian and bit farther right people

I have met many of them, they usually stay their ground

Your welcome, but yeah, I will give you some advice

Most if not all large media corps, from fox news, to CNN have the same goal

Give the wrong idea about people, and get the other side to attach them, and vise versa

It creates a war with a countrys own people, when both of us have the same enemy, and those people are the ones controlling this whole thing

Its gonna become a civil war soon, it starts with antifa, and then Charlottesville, it only is gonna get worse before it gets better

The “business as usual”.

American conservatism is merely the shadow that follows Radicalism as it moves forward towards perdition. It remains behind it, but never retards it, and always advances near its leader.
— Robert Lewis Dabney, 1897

>paleo-conservatism
LOL, on how many levels of cope are you? “Conservatism” doesn’t work so let’s try “Paleo-conservatism”. Why not go full Mesozoic-Conservatism? Such a cuck. Also imagine adding “pro-white people” to christianity. Semitic religions are universalist you dunce. The majority of world’s christians are non-white.

Also homosexuals can have children via sperm donation

But you won’t get a man pregnant by donating him sperm…
I get what you mean though.
So actually it is a random woman who gives her egg away, and not just a donation of sperm like they happen thousands of times in a gay darkroom at the weekend?

We have lost. The best we can do is raise our children to be intolerant and subversive.

It’s not okay to be white. It’s AWESOME!

“fellow white people”… yeah we know that very well…
How can one be white and then says things like this?
Easy answer, because he only looks white… take a look at his nose too!

And white people have the right to feel better than any other race, that is simply because it is true.

Love is love~

Eros is not agapē.
And the exclusive male homosexual lacks storgē, and so lacks all natural loves and affections.

What? You aren’t making any sense

I love my partner more than the world

You do not have any concept of what love is beyond the faintest shadow of emotion and lust. If you don’t know what the words mean I’m sure you can look them up, but there are people here who will understand simply because they are learned.

Matters personally, I mean, I generally haven’t felt it for a long time, I have issues relating to people, so its hard to get to that point

However, if I were to describe it….mmm, emotions like love are hard to describe, but, to me

Its an emotion, no, a relation, that goes beyond the idea of sense, the idea of thought, the idea of protection, your entire life, putting it all into it

Something you need to pull yourself into, something that brings a joy that nothing physical could create, something beyond humanity, beyond this world

Something, so precious that it becomes your entire life, is its own life, in a way

If that isn’t love, then, I think I found something better, because I can’t imagine something better than that feeling

Of course, its rare, but I will one day find someone who makes me feel like that

And, whenever someone makes me feel bad about loving him, I can simply look him in the eyes, and know, that im so lucky to have him

I think if you wanted to understand you would have looked up the terms, as I suggested. But I’ll bear with you a little: The English word ‘love’ is a very loose term, most languages, including other Latin languages, have multiple terms more precisely describing the love they are talking about.

The phrases ‘I love my boots’ ‘I love my cat’ and ‘I love my wife’ would not be translated to the same word ‘love’. Me encantan mis botas pero amo a mi esposa. Understand? The various ideas behind ‘love’ are not interchangable. One love is not another love.

Eros, agapÄ“, storgÄ“, and phileo are the Greek conceptualizations of love. The love that conquers all is agapÄ“. What you describe is at most a form or eros, but not really. It’s more of an monomania.

The natural loves, when left unchecked, all have highly destructive sides. They’re in many practical ways a kind of narcotic. Without agapÄ“ to control them and temper them they become an obsession where nothing else matters and all is sacrificed in the name of the out of control love, including the well-being of the beloved.

Thus the one who does things in the name of love is very often the same as the one who does not understand love.

It’s not.

Agapē is not dependent on any of the other loves, it is a thing unto itself and you may care for someone in no other way but still have it. But the other loves without agapē become obsessive and destructive.

AgapÄ“ has been translated as ‘disinterested benevolence’. But that’s not exactly right. It has an interest of it’s own, it’s just a very, very long term one. And it’s more than just benevolence; it’s more than wishing well, it’s understanding what is good for the beloved in the long term and doing it even if it takes sacrifice.

For examples of all the lesser loves being corruptable: Storgē can be seen in a mothers love. But if that mother becomes obsessively coddling and cares more about protecting the child than raising it to be an adult she acts against agapē, and harms the very thing she loves.

That is an example of love, but not an example of good love.

So, then what stops someone like me from expressing agape, it seems like something that comes up naturally,

It seems like something I would most likely have in a relationship, despite who that person is

It shouldn’t matter if its a man or a woman, as long as it develops correctly

You probably do express agape in some ways, and try to in others. But it’s actually something that is far from natural in the way that most people use the word natural. The loves were ordered from most natural to most spiritual as such: Eros, storge, phileo, agape. Some more modern writters reversed eros and storge. The point being that all sexual animal express eros, and all animals with any kind of family structure (most of them) have some kind of storge. Phileo is something few animals are capable of, it takes a meeting of the minds and similar likes and dislikes and most importantly shared interests. I don’t care to debate how many animals have interests in certain hobbies extend that as wide or as narrow as you wish. The point is Phileo is a love that comes from the mindsoul rather than the body.

Agape is a love that comes from the spirit. It does not develop naturally the way attraction, fondness, and friendship do. Agape comes from the pursuit of wisdom, and the conclusions of Agape are often very counter-intuitive to the natural loves. For example storge sees a person starving and wants to feed them a lot right away. Agape understand they must feed them slowly or that person may die. Storge wants to coddle, while agape may allow a child to face hardship, or even push them into hardship, to force them to grow.

Of course that brings us to the issue where we are at loggerheads: Is malemale exclusive same-sex eros contra to agape? Is it always, sometimes, or never?

But of course you can, and if you have it must, have agape for all kinds of people, male and female.

Of course remember I said mm exclusive same sex practice was against storge earlier, I didn’t necessarily say that about agape.

But at this point, do you understand what I mean when I say ‘love isn’t just love’? It seems you do, and I respect how much you’ve listened to my point of view which is opposed to yours.

I’m going to say something that some people won’t like, but I’m a proud bisexual and I do consider myself more conservative than the (((conservatives))) at r/T_D or r/conservative. For one, I am nationalistic while (((conservatives))) are all for open borders. I believe in America First, while (((conservatives))) are Israel First, America Last. In addition, I believe the immigration act of 1965 should be repealed and that the part of the 14th amendment that allows for birthright citizenship should be abolished.

A social movement based on abortion, contraception, homosexuality and transgenderism literally has no future.

You have a point there. And meanwhile Europa y America birth rates are collapsing while other places (except maybe Japan and other exceptions) have 2 and 3 times more babies.
The reasons you mentioned are good points. Don’t forget immigration. Westerners can’t afford to have babies cuz their countries are too busy playing parent to the 3rd world.
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FRANCE IS WEAK SINCE THEIR BLOOD LINE HAD THINNED! FRENCH CANADIANS ARE THE ONLY TRUE FRENCH! Trudeau is right when he says the country belongs to the French but he is a cuck and will let the higher class bribe their way into politics. and with that comes mixed blood of non french origin. that is very wrong and we need to install a new stronger leader.
here’s a link to a video that should clear up some confusion. http://tiny.cc/WhyTheFrenchArePure

notre sang commence à s’éclaircir et c’est à nos ouvriers de le sauver.

“lustful encounters”,

Lust doesn’t define how I feel, sure, it can be for a bit of it, but thats humanity. We are lustful creatures, mainly men, but there is something more to it than that.

You made the fatal mistake of assuming that just because I say love is love, that I support all who says it

I don’t,

As for children, no child under the age of puberty is not gay nor trans, around 16 or so is when we should acknowledge their behavior, and 18-20 is when they would most likely know who they are

As for the society part, im quite happy being gay,

The only down side is when people judge me for it, its annoying, but I can live with it, some people cant, and who can blame them

If you woke up one day and everyone gave you strange looks for holding hands with the opposite sex you would feel, isolated

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