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  • Seth Apex

    I don’t quite get it. Is it that vegans spurn meat the way some women spurn men?

    • Swede

      a women complaining and being sad about not finding a man is like a vegan at a meat all you can eat buffé whining about being hungry.

  • 12judges

    Honey, the answer to both your problems is right behind you. Looking around. Looking for a place to sit down with his big sausage. Lose the M-effing tshirt and quit it with the sadz!

  • Simon Telezhkin

    Torturing and killing of sentient creatures is initiation of the use of force. Financial support of somebody else doing it for you – too. If you think that animals have consciousness(not a crazy idea at all), you should go vegan as Patt Condell for example. That’ve said, most of today vegans are nutjobs sadly.

    • Seth Apex

      whether or not animals have consciousness, the don’t understand enough language to tell us, and in the rare case they do, such as koko the gorilla, we generally don’t eat them.

      • Simon Telezhkin

        For somebody “can’t ask to not kill him” is a criteria, for some “can feel pain and don’t want to be killed” is a good one. Doesn’t makes last ones crazy. Embryos can’t even show us with actions they have feelings or want to live too, doesn’t make pro-lifers crazy. They have neural systems, they didn’t do nothing for us(those who we mass produce), how on earth wouldn’t it go under NAP?

        • Seth Apex

          that’s a strawman of my position. none of the animals we eat even have a capacity for language, which the embryo does.

          • Simon Telezhkin

            My point is that there are a lot of non crazy people stands on position that key relevant factors for what is ok to torture and kill for consumption and what’s not – “can it suffer?” and “have it initiated aggression against me”. I understand that you have other criteria, I don’t care much about your life and choices.

  • Divosa Uplanovytch

    There is no incel wymyn


      Ever seen a landwhale? Incels come in all different sizes and shapes

      • Robs

        Doesnt black guys usually take the landwhales.

      • White Makes Right

        Among the incel community, you’re not actually considered incel if there’s something simple you can do to fix your problem, like lose weight, or lower your standards. Fat guys are not considered true incels, either, for this reason. If you lost weight, and still couldn’t get a woman, then you would be a true incel. Since most thin women could get a man if they just lowered their standards, the only women considered true incels by the incel community are those with severe mental illnesses.

        • Dialgatime321 X

          Agreed, but on the contrary, many men who call themselves “incels” could probably theoretically get a Wal-Mart land whale if they lowered their standards enough. Furthermore, what constitutes “something simple”? Could “something simple” include:

          Getting in shape (for those who are not physically impaired)
          Dating very old woman, very fat women, or very lonely male neckbeards who can’t wipe their own ass
          Waiting a long time for your career to get better so you can get more money and be loved in 30 years
          Getting a prostitute (even the poorest of poors must be able to scrape 50 bucks out of the couch cushions)

          Because by these definitions, there are virtually NO HUMANS that could be considered incels. Theoretically, almost everyone could improve themselves enough and lower their standards enough to get a partner, making the population of true incels virtually null.

          • Sam Greenaum

            That’s the point! The incel community, most of them could get a woman if they’d just quit the poisonous incel shit. Thinking of women as human beings with their own minds would be an advance over calling them “succubi” (not sure that’s a proper Latin plural) and “roasties”. If they’d just quit the hate for five minutes, that’s really just butthurt anyway, anger at women they’ve never even spoken to, for not reading their Attraction Sign and coming up and introducing themselves.

            Basically being an incel is what makes one an incel. Or certainly once you’ve fallen into one of their communities, if you think it seems like a nice place to stick around, you’re fucked. They’re pits of impotent anger and headbutting the wall.

            It’s not even about lowering standards, really, I’m sure most of them would be happy to take any average girl. Aiming too high is not the problem. It’s being too scared to take the shot, then going home and raging about it online. As if dating is so easy for the rest of us! Like the whole world is literally full of Chads who pick up the women that are randomly lying around on the pavement.

            The whole thing’s based on faulty reasoning, and ordinary things like it being scary to approach somebody you’re attracted to, and being scared of rejection. Because on the Internet you can find communities based around literally anything, that one cultural artefact has somehow managed to become a club you can join.

            Communicating in memes too much doesn’t help either. There’s a lot of subtleties and confounding factors in most human endeavours, that aren’t communicated well in a sarcastic Anime picture full of logical fallacies.

        • Sam Greenaum

          If most incels stopped hanging round online with other people infected with the same meme (in the Dawkins sense), if they’d cheer the fuck up, stop wallowing in their problems, and take some fucking responsibility for their lives, then they could get a partner too. The whole “incel” mindset, and the communities they form, are most of what traps them.

          We all might feel neglected and unattractive, if nobody wants to be our partner. We might even fall victim to the “sour grapes” mistake. But usually we have other shit in our lives, we’re not over-suckled babies, and we can keep shit in perspective. So eventually it happens and we find someone who likes us.

          We don’t usually go completely overboard on the “Well I didn’t want a girlfriend ANYWAY, HA!” to the point where they’re all horrific cock-addicts (except they won’t suck mine) and then we start doing weird shit like comparing chin length to inner thigh, or whatever crazy shit.

          Despite the obvious existence of men who aren’t great looking, out there with wives and kids, it doesn’t knock them out of their 1-track.

          Before the Internet became ubiquitous, it’s the sort of thing you might bitch with your friends over, or if you really were such a poisonous crybaby you didn’t have any friends, you might write it in a diary. But eventually you’d get the fuck over it.

          Now, though, there’s wells of despair you can throw yourself into at the click of a mouse. All those experts, the blind leading the blind, a bunch of geniuses who’ve barely ever spoken to a woman, deciding they’re experts in how women’s minds work. So far as they knock up spreadsheets explaning it all, careful to create a place in the equation where being a bitter, spiteful, childish asshole has nothing to do with one’s attractiveness.

          Sorry, I’ve gone overboard here a bit with the insults maybe. It’s annoying though. Because they’re just making themselves and each other work. Before the Internet this couldn’t have happened, feeling sorry for yourself was a 1-player game.

          • Zon Kuthon

            You. Hope. Too. Much. All women are ruined. All Women Are Like That.

            There is nothing else; only Eternal Misery.

    • You are Not a Victim

      There’s no incel men either, unless they’re literally homeless with no money to hire a prostitute.

      It’s a Reddit buzzword that’s just another synonym for “neckbeard” or “virgin”. Nobody actually self-identifies as an “incel”, contrary to what feminists and their nu-male allies want you to believe.

      • Kim B

        ”Nobody actually self-identifies as an “incel” says hello…

        • Zon Kuthon

          Defectives say a lot of things. They should be silent because everyone who’s not defective killed them. Only perfection is tolerable; everything else is defective.

      • Sam Greenaum

        Prostitutes don’t count. I think the idea is that you have to actually attract a woman with your own resources.

        Really sex isn’t the root of what they’re after. It’s the validation, the manliness, not being a “loser” and all that shit. Attracting a partner is portrayed by society as a competitive sport, and how good you are at it affects your value as a person.

        That’s the world advertisement puts forward, particularly grooming products, clothes, or anything else sold with the idea of making you more attractive. With Gilette’s new 19-blade system, they’ll literally line up, on their knees, waiting their turn to suck you off.

        TV and films, too. There was once an article on Cracked, before it went utterly to shit, about how media tells men that they’re basically owed a woman by life. Any film, the guy meets the woman by pure chance, saves her life or orphanage or whatever, and she falls in love with him.

        But what if she just didn’t fancy him? What if their personalities were just too different, what if she didn’t like his face or how he dresses? What if she was already married?

        None of that happens. You kill the bad guys, you save the girl, thereby earning her, so she becomes yours to keep. How many people do you know found their partners by rescuing them from Alan Rickman?

        There’s a huge, huuuuuuge, ocean of bullshit about human relations in Western media, of all types. No wonder some young men get confused and feel bad about themselves, when stuff doesn’t happen as it’s “supposed” to. Some of them turn hateful and bitter, and go to unpleasant extremes. And the community itself encourages being a baby, misogyny, and not taking responsibility. But the core of it isn’t young men who wake up randomly hating women one day. All that comes later, a mix of rationalisations and sour grapes. The psychology is simple.

        What’s new is the Internet allowing people to start communities based on absolutely any demented nonsense. Guys in a state of mind they’d hopefully grow out of, falling into a trap, believing the Incel nonsense about how they really ARE doomed never to find a partner (and the validation we’re told that brings), and falling down the rabbit hole.

        Really you’d need to overhaul society to fix the problem completely. But that’s not practical. I think some sort of outreach might help though. Finding out exactly what happens to these people, how it all works, and exactly where they’re wrong about things. Understand them, then shepherd them down a better path.

        Certainly mocking and hatred from Internet “feminists” and shit-raking journalists is exactly what isn’t needed, but so far that’s all that’s been offered.

        TL;DR it’s all sour grapes.

  • Robs

    She wants a strong dependable man with a job, yet all her vegan friends are soyboys with big hole earrings or fat as fuck.

  • quickshooter

    if people could only take out the SOY out of modern veganism then it would be great
    because these days, Is humanism better than Judaism?

    the most obvious step in defeating the ”inner Jew” is to cease having Goys of our own!

    • DatBoi

      Eating shitty food to own the libs.

  • lesbians don’t want to date men. a good cartoon

    seriously i have no idea what this is supposed to mean

    • Stiffy Weiner

      It’s more like “I have opportunities but won’t take them because I don’t like them, or go against my principles even if I can get stuff done doing said thing that goes against my beliefs, even though the people around me are doing them.”

      I think stonetoss wrote himself into a corner, because that’s actually what right wingers do, they refuse to do things a certain way because the people they adamantly oppose do it too.

      A good cartoon.

      • ですへんたい

        theres usually a reason that isn’t “libs do this so must be bad.” The “muh principles” thing does encapsulate civnats very well tho, with prioritizing moral high ground over actually doing anything

        • Ben Gordon

          >claims civnats don’t do anything
          >hasn’t done anything either

          • ですへんたい

            what have conservatives conserved?

          • Ben Gordon

            Who said they have? The term “conservative” in this context is based on how the Constitution is interpreted. Most principles laid out in the Constitution are still applied as they were written. That is the very definition of “conservative” in this context.

          • ですへんたい

            firstly thats moving the goalposts, secondly when whites are a minority (something the republican party and Trump pushes for) the constitution and all its ideals will be irrelevant anyway

      • Ben Gordon

        Maybe, just maybe, there can be exceptions? “lolprinciples” only works in a reality devoid of context.

        • Stiffy Weiner

          Explain further.

          • Ben Gordon

            Unless you have the context for each individual situation where principles are being tested against “my opponent is doing it too”, you don’t have a real argument. For instance, Japanese field commanders typically didn’t surrender during battle while American, British, and Australian forces did. However, the had the Japanese put aside their principles an preserved both their and their soldiers’ lives, it would not have changed the overall outcome of the war.

            Why fight fire with fire when you can use water instead and not burn yourself like an imbecile?

          • Stiffy Weiner

            You’re moving the goalposts to talk about something that has nothing to do with the situation shown in the comic, or the implications of my previous comment. If anyone is an imbecile, it’s you for not understand something so fucking cut and dry.
            If you’re autistic, then I apologize.

          • Ben Gordon

            Bullshit. You’re making general claims without supporting evidence that would be required to verify the validity of each situation. The goal posts have hardly been moved at all. I responded to a comment critical of those who take principled stances.

    • DatBoi

      It’s saying vegans are whiny pricks no one wants to be around. Which is true for the most part.

      • not much of an argument, is it? she seems lovely, i’d be her friend

        • Stiffy Weiner

          I’d be her friend too. Though I hope she doesn’t mind eating some meat (;

  • i make dinner every night but i never have a woman interested in me

  • obju

    Ah the ‘I make comics with one-dimensional characters about people I’ve obviously never made face-to-face contact with and pretend like I’m changing the world’. Classic. Btw your art style is absolute wank

  • Cypherpunks (a public account)

    its stupid when girls say they cant find a guy, yet they ignore me. its
    like saying youre hungry when theres a hot dog on the ground outside

    • Sponge Sponge

      Maybe they mean they can’t find a good guy.

    • Griffin

      I mean would you eat a ground hotdog

      • Keresztes Erik

        that’s the point retard

        • Griffin

          yes and

      • SuperSeal

        who wouldnt eat a ground hotdog

    • New England Firefighter


      • ssgtnelson

        I think that comment is called a joke.

  • Sam Greenaum

    She’s in the wrong restaurant. What’s the point of that?

  • Jesher

    I can actually relate to this chick on one level: I’m surrounded by options if I’m willing to compromise on my principles. But I’m not.

  • Maxim Sukharev

    is she retarded? What’s she’s doing at meat market if she is vegan?

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